Truth-telling Powers

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Jay
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Truth-telling Powers

Post by Jay » Sat May 05, 2018 1:07 am

I have clarification questions on situations pertaining to truth-telling powers (hypnotism, insight, wounding lies, etc):

1. If a character has the Delusional Derangement and an aspect of reality they're role-playing as part of their delusion is interrogated with a truth-telling power, should they answer per character knowledge as if their delusion is the truth?

2. If a character is the target of Hallucination or Dreamshape and are interrogated with a truth-telling power over an aspect those powers affected the character's perception of, should they answer per character knowledge as if the hallucination/dreamshape is the truth?
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Re: Truth-telling Powers

Post by Julian » Mon May 14, 2018 11:01 pm

1. Yes. Truth-telling powers work based on IG character knowledge. You should answer questions based on what your character believes to be the truth. So if you character has a Delusion that the are the king they would answer that they are in fact the king, even under hypnosis.

2. This is a little trickier. Let's break this down in the various possible scenarios.

-Actively Hallucinating: You can never be under the effect of both Hallucination and Hypnotism, Insight, or Wounding Lies at the same time. Hypnotism and Wounding Lies would overwrite the Hallucination or vice versa. Insight only works on characters who are in the Dying state, and all active effects on a character end when they go to Dying.

-Actively Dreamshaped: The character would be unable to answer questions while actively being Dreamshaped. You can't speak while Incapacitated, asleep, or Dazed, and Dreamshape does not work on Dying characters.

-Previously affected by Hallucination: You should answer based on what your character believes to be the truth per IG knowledge. So if it's a clever Hallucination and your character has no reason to doubt their lying eyes, you would answer as if the hallucination were true, because your character believes it to be true. Consider that your character must offer the truth as they see it in a complete and non-misleading manner; so that means if your character has reason to suspect they might have been hallucinating for whatever reason, that's information that should be included.

-Previously affected by Dreamshape: Dreamshape doesn't implant false memories, it gives dreams. If you get a dreamshape about killing an angel, you wouldn't normally believe you actually killed an angel. You'd believe you dreamed about killing an angel. There's room for shenanigans where you convince a character that a Dreamshape was real in character, but that's equally true for mundane dreams or anything else you might want to convince a character of.

Whew, that ended up being convoluted while I chased edge cases. The important thing to remember is you answer truth-telling abilities based on what your character believes to be true IG. You don't need to worry about active Hallucinations or Dreamshapes during a truth-telling power, because there is no circumstance where you could be under the effect of both at the same time.
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